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SCL Photo Podcast 47 - Start Thinking About Our Rights

SCL PodcastAre photographers rights being eroded, at the expense of our democracies? Replies welcome!

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Reader Comments (4)

Hiya Rob,

Another great podcast, really enjoyed listening. Congratulations on the cobra, gets you on the road to off-camera flash techniques, (get yourself a longer lead or slave and open up the possibilities more!) Wasn't a bad price either, especially all working.

Enjoyed your photographers rights chat, something that we've all been droning on about for a while and still seeing no progress. It's amazing the 'machine' that works hindering us even more with gentle public persuasion. I don't remember the same rubbish going on when real bombs were going off every Christmas and Easter during the 70's or irishman arrested at every corner! The current terrorists have done their job and incited terror in us all and we've restricted personal freedoms to ensure our freedom?!?! Then it all has a knock on effect where people don't even want to be included in a photograph on the street in a public place and the current whinges about Google Street.

Who cares really? When will we all be aware of the real facts? Eight people will die today and another eight the day after and so on, all for our personal freedom of driving. (1 in 250 of us will die on the UK's roads and is nothing to how many people will die from starvation on this unfair world we live in.) But we like to whinge about the little things don't we, as the big things can't be resolved - or can they? If we put this much 'gusto' into resolving 'real' issues then the world be a far better place to inhabit. So if you're not harming anyone, what does it REALLY matter?! I mean really harming someone too, not just becuse they were carrying Lidl shopping bags and were photographed, (Oh, the shame of it all - can you just imagine!) Or because you looked slightly overweight than you contemplate you really are.

When my camera or photographers start killing people at a rate of 1 in 250 for their personal freedom, we'd have caught up with cars. When the National Trust realise they can't sell us their crappy pictures they'll restrict any other poor sod from taking and selling decent ones - oh yes, they've already done that! If you can't use a 'professional' looking camera buy a Canon G10 and see if they can tell the difference. Just take photographs as you usually and quite happily do and sod them all. Let's start addressing 'real' issues and no 'faffing' about with this tripe!

Anyway, great podcast. Even made me get my soapbox out for a while! :)


June 2, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterVictor

Hi Victor,

Great comments. It's amazing that we live in a society saturated by cctv, our every move being recorded, yet there is the backlash against photographers.

When I was shooting with the huge Soligor Zoom the other day, from the end of a pier in Portsmouth Harbour, I saw a Police Boat start to move across the harbour towards where I was standing. It was probably a coincidence, but I have to say I felt uncomfortable, packed up my big lens and put the 29mm on. Maybe I was just being paranoid, but when we reach the point where amateurs can feel uneasy when doing perfectly legal photography, it's a dark day for us all.

Anyway, happy shooting!

Cheers, Rob.

June 2, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterRob_Nunn


Another great podcast. I enjoy listening to them, what i normally do is put them on the sat nav, and listen to them when the Mrs is in the supermarket, I hate shopping and normally wait in the car.

The discussion of rights is a good one, I would feel uncomfortable taking pictures with the police around, because of the new "almost) catch anything rule. It makes street photography difficult.

But like victor said, who would be able to tell the difference between a good dSLR and a G10 or the Sigma DP-1.

Would they class those as professional cameras too?

Would the same be said about someone turning up with a video camera if they happened to get out a Panasonic HVX-200?

With many camera phones now outputting 8MP. Albeit through a very small sensor, where do they draw the line.

What exactly makes a professional photographer? Would they have stopped Ansel Adams taking pictures with a disposable at such venues?

I hate the fact that if you get your camera out in public, you are instantly a terrorist, or get asked questions from the local plod. I think that they ought to clarify the law on this. What does actually infringe on legality?

Problem is, I doubt that they will ever do this, and I don't think they will be happy until it is no longer acceptable (in the public eye) to take photographs in public.


June 6, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterBen

Good points Ben, and it doesn't look like its going to be getting better anytime soon.

Thanks, Rob.

June 8, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterRob_Nunn

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